John Edwards and the democratic Wing of the Democratic Party

By now most people not living under under a boulder know that John Edwards is considered an "economic populist."  Unfortunately, the term is often ill defined, other than a sense of being on the side of working people and vague recollections about a Cross of Gold speech. For Edwards substantively "economic populism" means that he is committed to universal health care, to effectively eliminate poverty in thirty years, and supports Smart trade agreements that benefit workers here and with our trading partners instead of just corporations.  

Beyond the specific policies John Edwards's value system is one that comes unapologetically from his small town working class background.  But, mill working fathers and passionate speeches aside, what is too often missed about the John Edwards brand of populism, is his insistence on the marriage of economic and political empowerment.

The way Edwards combines promoting a fair economic shake for everyone with de-rigging the political system has appealed to me since he started doing it during his last run.  Now, after eight years of top down politics and top down economics from the Bush administration, John Edwards's brand of small "d" democratic Populism is exactly what is needed.

His democratic Populism takes shape in a number of proposals, most famous is his career long refusal to take PAC or lobbyist money and his call for the entire Democratic Party to join him.  More devilishly, there is his plan to force Congress to justify their own government funded health care if they refuse to enact universal health care for the rest of the nation.  A plan Jake Tapper, with no apparent sense of irony, called cruel because it may deny coverage to Congresspeople with health problems in their families (Note to Tapper:millions of Americans face that 'cruel' reality everyday, something that, strangely, never seemed to concern Tapper a wink before).  If the plan can make a card carrying member of the MSM care about some one's health care, it must have merit, even if it is just for the beltway elites. Baby steps, people, baby steps.

One of Edwards's more exciting democratic Populism proposals is his One Democracy initiative and its Citizen's Congress proposal praised here by Syracuse University's Maxwell School of Government Professor Tina Nabatchi:

Most of us have no formal way to participate in decision making about the issues of highest public concern Iraq, taxes, health care, jobs, global warming, the environment, education, Social Security; the list can go on and on. No wonder the CBS News/New York Times poll found that only 10 percent of Americans believe they have a say in what the government does a "good deal" of the time!

Finally, however, one of the presidential candidates is taking on this problem. Last month, John Edwards unveiled a government reform proposal that seeks to re-engage Americans with politics and government. His One Democracy initiative calls for the participation of ordinary Americans in politics through a Citizen Congress a program in which millions of Americans nationwide would participate in deliberations about critical policy issues, identify the challenges and trade- offs facing our country, and offer advisory opinions to leaders.

Edwards' plan has the potential to strengthen our national democracy and reverse the trend of disengagement among American citizens by offering them a new voice. It could help the public identify common priorities (not the priorities of special interests and business), foster common ground and consensus, and develop solutions for the common good. In doing so, it could create a broad public constituency to stand behind and support our leaders' political actions, however difficult they might be. Mobilizing and engaging citizens in this way could help build the political will we so desperately need to act on serious matters of public policy.

(Emphasis Added)

The Citizens Congress is the flip side of campaign finance reform and public financing, which Edwards also supports. While the finance schemes are badly needed to limit the power and influence of corporations and special interests, the Citizens Congress is designed to increase the power and influence of ordinary citizens.

Beyond the specific reform proposals, this spirit of empowering people politically and economically infuses almost all of John Edwards policies, take his answer to TechCrunch on Net Neutrality:

In May, I - like thousands of citizens - wrote a letter to the FCC urging them to guarantee net neutrality. I believe that if we do not guarantee net neutrality, the Internet could go the way of network television and commercial radio - with just a few loud corporate voices and no room for the grassroots and small entrepreneurs. Our country is already divided enough between the haves and have-nots. Where we go to school, where (and if) we get health care, whether we can retire with dignity - we have big divides in all of these areas in this country.

While we work to create One America, we should not allow the Internet to be divided or corporate censorship to take root. That would make the other important work we have to do that much harder.

(Emphasis Added)

In a way that no other politician seems to, Edwards gets that the unfairness of our political system is linked to the unfairness of our economic system.  In a way that no other politician seems to, Edwards is committed and prepared to change both. And it is that combination of economic Populism with democratic Populism is what makes Edwards such a potentially transformational leader.

-AJ



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Re: John Edwards and the democratic Wing of the De (2.00 / 3)

Cross posted at Mass Eyes and Ears and at Boston for Edwards


by MassEyesandEars on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 07:29:14 AM EST

Great diary. Can I crosspost at Daily Kos? (2.00 / 1)

Very substantive.  I feel you're channeling my thoughts!

Thank you!


by santamonicadem on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 10:32:42 AM EST
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Re: Great diary. Can I crosspost at Daily Kos? (2.00 / 1)

Thanks. Go ahead.


by MassEyesandEars on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 10:34:04 AM EST
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Re: John Edwards and the democratic Wing of the De (2.00 / 4)

This country is so messed up it needs sweeping reforms.  John Edwards will lead the way, and we can help him.


by benny06 on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:23:33 AM EST

Nice (2.00 / 5)

I am an Obama supporter, but thank you for a very substantive diary.  Nice job.

(Contrast yours to the POS about Hillary that has little to offer but meaningless national poll numbers...are Hillary supporters that devoid of reasons to like her that all they can throw out is poll numbers???)


by Dem in Dallas on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:25:57 AM EST

Re: Nice (2.00 / 3)

Thanks, Obama certainly has some very good government reform proposals too.  But for me, at least, Edwards unites the reform proposals and economic proposals in the most compelling way.


by MassEyesandEars on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:42:39 AM EST
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Re: Nice (none / 0)

The endorsement of the labor group with its 230,000 members means that Clinton now has the support of unions representing 3.6 million workers.

3.6  million members of labor who are offended by the attacks being made during this primary season, by those who are using false, right wing attacks against Hillary Clinton .

From Michael Sullivan, the union's future president:
pledges the union's human and financial resources behind

"a proven, talented and articulate candidate who rouses
the spirit of so many people. SMART's combined membership will work tirelessly to get the vote out in the primaries and then in the general election to make sure a Democrat is back in the White House."

"Hillary Clinton understands our issues. She knows the importance of sound policies and programs to address the energy crisis, fair trade, quality and affordable health care, funding college and technical education and training, as well as protecting retirement security,"

"She is second to none in understanding the need for enlightened leadership in our relations with other countries around the world."

"We want new leadership and new thinking both at home and abroad, and she will bring to this high office the intelligence and common sense necessary to guide our nation," Sullivan added.
---------------

SMART has joined many other unions that are already backing Clinton, including the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees and the American Federation of Teachers.


"I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it's hell." Democrat Party "Hack" and President Harry S Truman
by holden caulfield on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 11:31:24 AM EST
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Can you discuss Edwards populist rhetoric (none / 0)

In this campaign in light of his Senate record which can only be described as DLC moderate...

By my reckoning he has shifted his stand on the following issues, based on this record or past statements...

IWR, Universal Health Care, China Trade, NAFTA, Drivers licenses for undocumented workers, Yucca Mountain, state Right to Work Laws...

And if he has truly shifted now, what does this say about the judgment he uses when entrusted with governmental responsibility...?


by SaveElmer on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:34:46 AM EST

Re: Can you discuss Edwards populist rhetoric (2.00 / 2)

The centrism of his Senate career is greatly exagerated, often by his opponents.  He opposed NAFTA from his first campaign, he was a leader on the Patient's Bill of Rights and McCain-Feingold.  

There has been a further evolution, but as Edwards says, not to learn from one's experience is 'ignorance.'  I think we've had enough small minded ignorance in the White House.  Don't you?


by MassEyesandEars on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:56:15 AM EST
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Re: Can you discuss Edwards populist rhetoric (2.00 / 1)

McCain-Feingold if I am not mistaken was supported by virtually every Democrat...and Patients Bill of Rights likewise was a standard Democratic Position. I believe the DLC supported both.

On NAFTA Edwards said the following in 2004...

" "I believe that NAFTA should exist," Mr. Edwards told editors and reporters of The New York Times at a meeting yesterday in New York, as he sought endorsements heading into next Tuesday's primary. "I think NAFTA is important -- it is an important part of our global economy, an important part of our trade relations."

"It's important to be straight with people about the jobs issue -- about trade and jobs," said Mr. Edwards, of North Carolina. "The kind of trade policy I'm talking about -- not an extreme trade policy, but the kind of trade policy I'm talking about -- is not going to save all those jobs. And I think people deserve to know that."

There is growth, and there is repudiating a large amount of your past experience...Edwards seems to be engaging in the latter...

And I find it curious when Hillary Clinton "evolves" on an issue she is accused of pandering...but with the others it seems to be intellectual growth


by SaveElmer on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 09:23:03 AM EST
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I'd love (2.00 / 3)

to see a link to that NAFTA quote. My guess is Edwards was asked about NAFTA should be repealed. The truth is, he opposed it in 1998.

No on accuses Hllary of pandering when she "evolves." People accuse he of pandering when she, for example, says she'll support a time-out on trade deals...when she's president, but for now, she'll go on supporting them. Nothing wrong with changing a position, definitely something wrong with telling unions one thing and your corporate backers another.

Great post, AJ: I think you've nailed perhaps the most important and promising aspect of his candidacy. It's a powerful message, powerful because it's true.


by david mizner on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 10:34:17 AM EST
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thanks for hitting some big issues (2.00 / 2)

I also love that Edwards has come out strongly for paper ballots.

I'm planning to post later about canvassing for Edwards in my neighborhood--I appreciate your coverage of the big picture today.


John McCain: 100 years in Iraq "would be fine with me."
by desmoinesdem on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:35:37 AM EST

Re: thanks for hitting some big issues (2.00 / 1)

I like his thoughts on paper ballots also.


No Way. No How. No McCain.
by Denny Crane on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 10:24:29 AM EST
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Does Edwards still support 'Right to Work' laws? (none / 0)

Or has he changed his position on that too?


by dpANDREWS on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:51:45 AM EST

Re: Does Edwards still support 'Right to (none / 0)

North Carolina was a right to work state before Edwards was elected to the senate, but he supported it.  It isn't a matter of him just being from a right to work state - he supported it openly, and said so.  See here:

EDWARDS: What my focus is, is on working people. And most of the working people in North Carolina are not members of labor unions as you well know.

Would you advocate that labor unions take a bigger role in the state of North Carolina?

EDWARDS: No, I mean I don't mean to push off the issue of labor unions. I just don't think labor unions are an enormous issue in North Carolina one way or the other. We have a right to work law. I do not support the changing of that law.

http://www.goiam.org/content.cfm?cID=114 27

And here:

In 1998, while running for the Senate, Edwards did not come out in favor of repealing right-to-work laws in North Carolina, and he has only opposed a national right-to-work law. While North Carolina is hardly considered to be a labor stronghold, the former senator's record and his relationship with some unions in the state were used by some unions to judge him as unworthy of an endorsement.

The International Association of Fire Fighters (IAFF), which endorsed Sen. Chris Dodd (Conn.), said Edwards's unwillingness to advocate a repeal of the right-to-work measure was a sticking point for the membership when it was seriously considering supporting the former senator's bid.

"How do you walk picket lines and be for right-to-work?" Jeffrey Zack, an IAFF official, said. "It's surprising that it wasn't disconcerting to more people.

http://theunionnews.blogspot.com/2007/11 /candidate-ripped-over-right-to-work.htm l

Now, I'm a fan of people who have the strength to reevaluate their positions in light of new information.  I think it's a sign of intellectual honesty.  However, John Edwards has changed his position on so many things, it makes me very suspicious.  And he certainly shouldn't be calling Hillary Clinton or anyone else a flip-flopper. That's intellectual dishonesty.


No Way. No How. No McCain.
by Denny Crane on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 10:22:34 AM EST
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Re: John Edwards and the democratic Wing of the De (2.00 / 4)

Edwards is from a right to work state, but he strongly supports the right to organize.  He has said more than once that if one can sign up to get a card from the Republican Party, one should be able to sign up for a union card just as easily.


by benny06 on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 09:18:10 AM EST

Re: John Edwards and the democratic Wing of the De (none / 0)

The endorsement of the labor group with its 230,000 members means that Clinton now has the support of unions representing 3.6 million workers.

3.6  million members of labor who are offended by the attacks being made during this primary season, by those who are using false, right wing attacks against Hillary Clinton .

From Michael Sullivan, the union's future president:
pledges the union's human and financial resources behind

"a proven, talented and articulate candidate who rouses
the spirit of so many people. SMART's combined membership will work tirelessly to get the vote out in the primaries and then in the general election to make sure a Democrat is back in the White House."

"Hillary Clinton understands our issues. She knows the importance of sound policies and programs to address the energy crisis, fair trade, quality and affordable health care, funding college and technical education and training, as well as protecting retirement security,"

"She is second to none in understanding the need for enlightened leadership in our relations with other countries around the world."

"We want new leadership and new thinking both at home and abroad, and she will bring to this high office the intelligence and common sense necessary to guide our nation," Sullivan added.
---------------

SMART has joined many other unions that are already backing Clinton, including the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees and the American Federation of Teachers.


"I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it's hell." Democrat Party "Hack" and President Harry S Truman
by holden caulfield on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 11:33:58 AM EST
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Re: John Edwards and the democratic Wing of the De (none / 0)

From what I have read Edwards lost the support of several important unions this time around in large part measure because of his support for the right-to-work law in NC.  The unions held it against him not so much that he supported right-to-work laws to get elected in NC, but that he did nothing (in deed or word) to challenge the law once he was Senator of the state.  


by georgep on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 04:20:50 PM EST
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Edwards has changed his position - Again (none / 0)

This is why I keep saying Edwards is out Mitt Romney.

We just keep finding issues he has 180'd on.

Balanced budget?  Used to be important to him.  Now.  Not so much.

Tax increases?  Used to be cool to them.  Now he openly talks them up.

Right to work laws that weaken union labor?  You could argue he hasn't changed here.  He still backs right to work laws that weaken unions.  He just doesn't like to promote that fact.

Learn more from NPR:

http://www.goiam.org/content.cfm?cID=114 27


by dpANDREWS on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 09:19:50 AM EST

Re: Edwards has changed his position - Again (2.00 / 1)

DP, you hijack diaries all the time.  Yes, we hear ya, but you aren't going to change my mind.
As I've said many times, I too was centrist Dem and have changed 180 degrees on many issues.  I'm encouraged that John has embraced more progressive issues.  As David Mizner wrote in his excellent diary a few months back, when John was in DC, he, much like Hillary and other Dems, was an insider probably guilty of groupthink. You can continue this line of attack, but you really aren't being fair to diarist by hijacking this diary, and you're not telling us things we don't already know.  So give it a rest, will ya.

Happy Thanksgiving!


by santamonicadem on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 10:41:34 AM EST
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Edwards has never changed his heart (2.00 / 1)

John Edwards is the kind of person who has climbed to the top and will not pull the ladder up behind him.  He has always felt the strong virtue of rewarding work over wealth.  What has changed is his faith in the system.  He no longer believes in it and you can see the anguish in his face now.  For any of us who have experienced betrayal by a husband or a wife or a father or a friend, it is a harsh experience that can leave you scarred.

What I like about Edwards is that he has come through the betrayal a better man, not a bitter man.


Join the Feral Cats of Freedom Coughing Up Hairballs of Truth in the Montana Underbrush
by Feral Cat on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 10:55:08 AM EST
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Not so sure (1.00 / 1)

His hedgefund did more than pull the ladder up on some residents in New Orleans and in Iowa.  They foreclosed on their homes.


by dpANDREWS on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 11:04:51 AM EST
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"his hedgefund" (2.00 / 1)

The place he consulted for a very short time is now his hedge fund? Are you saying he was directly managing the fund and its subsidiaries or all companies it owned shares in?


John McCain: 100 years in Iraq "would be fine with me."
by desmoinesdem on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 11:43:23 AM EST
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He put a ton of his own money in it .... (none / 0)

.... and drew as huge salary as a consultant, someone who influenced the fund


by dpANDREWS on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 12:27:01 PM EST
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The Democratic wing of the Democratic Party (none / 0)

Doesn't back laws that hinder union organizing as right to work laws do.

So I view my post as on topic.  

The diary covered a lot of ground and was of course about Edwards, my post addressed Edwards and his issues.

Again, I view my post as on topic.


by dpANDREWS on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 11:07:22 AM EST
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Re: The Democratic wing of the Democratic Party (none / 0)

You distort and lie, DP, you're a rightwing attack dog. Get over yourself.


by santamonicadem on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 11:35:42 AM EST
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Please come with facts (none / 0)

What did I lie about?

Where is the distortion?

What makes you call a proud Democrat like myself right wing?

You really should back up your hate speech.


by dpANDREWS on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 12:24:10 PM EST
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1998 (2.00 / 2)

What has changed since then in the country?

Free Trade Agreements left millions without jobs

Crushing healthcare costs

An illegal war

Our rights have been stripped away by Bush

Iraq Vets not being treated for health issues

In 1998, the economy was a lot better, we still had a lot more jobs in this country etc. etc.

In 1998 the country was not in such dire straights.

Edwards "evolution" is in response to the growing and mounting issues and problems in this country.

That's why his ideas and rhetoric are much stronger and more fervrent. He was pro union in 1998, just not as much and probably didn't feel the need to rock the boat when it came to right to work law in his state. Now we have a lot less jobs, a horrid economy and have suffered years of middle class destruction.

At his core this is who Edwards has always been, he is now rising to the challenges faced in this country.


by Chaoslillith on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 11:54:48 AM EST
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Re: John Edwards and the democratic Wing of the De (none / 0)

I think these all sound like good proposals on paper, but could he get these things passed in Congress?  
So many of his ideas, like denying Congress a health care plan until they work on passing a health care plan for all Americans, sounds like great politically, but I can't think of a better way to unite a Congress against a President.  
And I'm not sure people are particularly incline to support so many of his democratic/economic populist plans.  
The last time he won an election was in 1998, and the platform he ran on wasn't nearly as democratic/economic populist as the one he is running now.  I don't understand why people seem to push his electability(sp?) so much, it doesn't seem particularly obvious to me that he would win the election in 2008, because he hasn't won any elections in some time.  
If he had stayed in the 20 04Senate race, and won, I think that would show that people like what they hear from him.  To be honest, since Kerry did in fact do that, I wish Edwards had done the same.  That would have been a much better platform to convince Americans about the strengths of his plans.  
by dctransplant on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 09:45:25 AM EST

Re: John Edwards and the democratic Wing of the De (none / 0)

I absolutely see your point.  


by santamonicadem on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 10:43:16 AM EST
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If you are for real reform (none / 0)

If you are for real reform , then dredge up the third rail of ethics reform: anonymous riders.

The institutions that have been taken over by corporate lobbyists, are the reason for the disconnect.  A "new voice" won't do much if the
elected representative has the perception that the lobbyist is a crucial part of the food chain. That lobbyist stands firmly between Americans and Their Representation. Everyone agress they are out of control.

So cut off their paycheck. Ban Anonymous Riders on legislation - you know, the stuff that makes bills 10,000 pages long. Make it easy to remember.  BAR

And another thing that he could do? He could try to get American Mass media (since he was, I am proud to say , the one that got the fox news people to back down from administering a debate it was I think in Nevada..) ... get them to provide free candidate time.  

McCain Feingold is secondary to that sort of uninterrupted time, 90 minutes per candidate.
Let the American people really talk about what each candidate wants to do.

Truth be told. The fact that no one does this means that there are two americas, and there isn't anyone at all interested in changing it.
The america that is you and me. And the america that has the telephone number to its lobbyist on speed dial.


by Trey Rentz on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 10:03:46 AM EST

Re: John Edwards and the democratic Wing of the De (2.00 / 3)

Read Vincente Navarro on why he feels health care failed in the 1990's. He quotes Alain Enthoven (who worked for McNamara during the Vietnam War and came up with the concept of "body count" for military success - nice Alain): "the U.S. Political System is incapable of forcing changes in such powerful constituencies as the insurance industry." http://www.counterpunch.org/navarro11122 007.html

Such candid admission of the profoundly undemocratic nature of the U.S. political system was refreshing.The splendid opening of the U.S. Constitution, "We the people . . . ," should be amended with a footnote reading "and the insurance companies." Actually, Enthoven's statement came very close to Marx and Engels' Communist Manifesto, which defines democracy as a class dictatorship in which the corporate class controls the state. Empirical support in the U.S. for that statement is strong. But the statement is not 100% accurate. I lived under a dictatorship in my youth (in Franco's Spain) and I recognize a dictatorship when I see one. The U.S. is not a dictatorship. People in the U.S. do have a voice. Marx and Engels (and Enthoven) were not completely right: U.S. history shows that people's mobilizations can win the day.

"People's mobilizations"is what this diary is about.  Without the strong trade union and socialist movements of the 1930's, FDR would not have had to try to come up with a compromise that would work for everybody.  But he did.  It was called Keynesian capitalism.  Capitalism with a little soul and a little bit of a leash on it.
That is why John Edwards  says time and time again "I can't do it without you."  He can't.  He must have the power and the backing of the American workers behind him to try and crawl our way back out of the gullet of fascism (merger of corporations and the state).  We must crawl our way back to the center where the country wants to be.  


Join the Feral Cats of Freedom Coughing Up Hairballs of Truth in the Montana Underbrush
by Feral Cat on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 10:49:26 AM EST

Jake Tapper seems like (2.00 / 1)

kind of an idiot


by okamichan13 on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 11:54:34 AM EST

Re: John Edwards and the democratic Wing of the De (2.00 / 2)

Very good post. Detailed and informative.  

It is very unfortunate that during this extremely critical juncture in out nations and the worlds history some political partisans (Clintonites) can  only make claims of flip flopping..(a right wing frame).. One such person actually derided Edwards for abandoning his previous "moderate DLC" stance.  I guess they are comforted by the fact that Hillary is STILL a DLC hack.  We cannot afford the DLC destruction of the Democratic party any longer.  Give me a reformed DLC'er over a card carrying DLC member any day of the week!

I noticed that none of the self identified Obama, Biden, Dodd or Kucinich supporters found the need to jump in this thread and try to take good, positive information into something bad.  To me that says something profound about who we are.


Hillary Clinton is not a monster,....as far as I know.. We are all Hussein JUNIOR.. ///.. FEINGOLD/BOXER 2016
by Its Like Herding Cats on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 01:03:41 PM EST

Re: John Edwards (none / 0)

Thanks for this very positive, substantial diary. I agree. Ignore the naysayers, they can't refute any ideas and will only smear.


by RDemocrat on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 03:14:38 PM EST


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